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  • #1420
    DeVaultSetter
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      Thread covering the gamut from go to woe in Windoze blows viz. your favourite Microsoft operating system, being a fan forced palaver rolling in the general direction of a well tempered rig, else by some verbal misstep, breezily blasted into a well borked one! All brought by the recent relocation to the W11 rig, encountering a few emergent speedbumps (outlined below), presently in situ for no definitive purpose other than to make for a light and airy, yet riveting thread, adorning some indeterminate corridor leading deep in the vault.

      No soundcard on the rig yet, so updated the ASUS Realtek drivers as a measure to prevent the device of ever emitting a constant buzz during playback. Happened once, and that’s once too many. The installation (don’t ask from where it originated) dropped the following audio.log file in C::

      [InstallShield Silent]
      Version=v7.00
      File=Log File
      [ResponseResult]
      ResultCode=0
      [Application]
      Name=Realtek Audio Driver
      Version=4.78
      Company=Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
      Lang=0409

      Happy to know Device Manager reports version 6.0.9363.2, so all good. Though not so good overall, as InstallShield has been on a bit of a downhill run according to this guy. 😛
      On the older rigs, manually disabled all other sound devices in Device Manager, here they would be the AMD HD Audio Device and AMD HD Streaming.

      Booting out of hibernation seems to upset the Network side of things, occasionally there is an alert:

      Network discovery is turned off. Network computers and devices are not visible. Please turn on network discovery in Network and Sharing Center.

      Network Discovery was on. Or this:

      An error occurred while reconnecting : to \\Storage\Home\ Microsoft Windows Network: The local device name is already in use.
      The Connection has not been restored.

      Storage is fine.

      Some rather mysterious “my music” “my pictures” “my videos” were noticed in the User root directory, and in the quick access area. Got an access denied pushback on open, but was able to remove them through explorer.

      At boot, explorer sometimes loses its windows prior to last shutdown, no messages of apology, or consolation, or even a joke! And the explorer windows are very slow to initialise.

      In attempting to diagnose reconnection of ethernet confusion with wifi and event 7023, some troubleshooting guide indicated navigating to C:\inetpub to do something. No such inetpub folder existed there or anywhere else, and for it to be so, IIS had to be installed, explained here. 🙂

      And it so happens OneDrive spits a “There was a problem connecting to OneDrive 0X8004e4d1“, no problem with OneDrive since initial setup at least.

      #1432

      For the buzzing, I included some tips in the other thread that may help 🙂

      No idea on the network share but have you tried removing the networked device and then readding it? Maybe it’ll clear some cobwebs out. I have to do that with my printer every now and then for Windows to properly pick it up

      #1433
      DeVaultSetter
      Keymaster

        The buzzing from the sound chip is more related to a DPC latency thing, happens after playing something in a browser tab, and then switching out to another tab or application.
        Because it happens only rarely, updating the driver may or may not necessarily be the fix. otherwise it’s turning off the AMD devices and disabling hardware acceleration.

        Oh, those messages are emitted during the running of the hibernation wakeup script, which gives more credo to the arguments of the antihibernationists. 🙂
        As a matter of interest, it does take a rather long time for Windows to sort out network issues after the PC has been switched off for months, and strangely, the effects of any human involvement don’t amount to much. Edit: Apart from putting the issue out to hang. 😛

        Edit: Hmmm, the Realtek audio driver in the Windows Catalog is is an older version (6.0.9238.1) to the above, but the zip file (DRV_Audio_RTK_SZ_DTSC_W11_64_V6092381_20211115R.zip) must have come from somewhere like the ASUS ROGues.
        Funny, the Windows Catalog has a newer version which hasn’t been included in WU yet, and an even newer one at ROGue’s, which links on to the protected content at My Digital Life. 😛

        #1581

        Sorry for missing this! Know it’s been six weeks but any luck yet?

        Speaking of, I need to get my own drivers updated at some point, specifically the video drivers. Been a ton of updates since I got the new system and I haven’t been keeping up. 😛

        #1582
        DeVaultSetter
        Keymaster

          Funny thing about this, we say nothing if things are fine, and become very loud if they are not.
          Yep, video drivers updates used to be weird, MS preferred to handle them “automatically”, the video driver folk were always wont to find something to complain about WU, and in many cases, justifiably so. Things have settled somewhat since then. 🙂

          #1585

          Yeah, I remember how Windows used to overwrite my newer video drivers with some that were several years old. It broke things when it did that! 😛 Fortunately, it seems that Microsoft has fixed that issue 🙂

          #4981
          DeVaultSetter
          Keymaster

            Time has moved on, and even though the Ryzen still hasn’t got a sound card, it’s not off the list. 🙂
            Windows has been pretty good overall, the major updates keep most of the user settings from the previous now, however there were some oddities introduced:

            Some of those issues in the OP are due to the Service Host (svchost.exe) chowing through the hosts file at Windows logon. It runs after hibernate resume as well, did post a query to MS for confirmation, both post and answer has since vanished. Ran it around to the Bitsum Gurus, no answer usually means, or implies insufficient information.
            Well, this CPU figure of 8.38% looks more to be throttled by the restraint of I/O operations (e.g. searching through RAM blocks and writing data back to RAM according to types and encoding etc.) than just plain cpu cycles. The issue is, the CPU is supposed to be going flat chat in a critical thread, yet you could play Skyrim or such (offline) concurrently, where game performance isn’t optimal, but fine nonetheless. It’s all down to the CPU architecture and grade of DDR RAM, and the Windows handling of them, an intricate and complex rabbit hole indeedy deed!
            Did you ever receive any feedback from Microsoft regarding the fans on the s76? It’s common knowledge that Windows performs many BIOS updates silently, which could mean certain settings get overwritten unfortunately. 🙁

            #4983

            It’s possible Linux would work better. Granted, based on your hardware, you should be running Windows without issue.

            A few weeks later, Microsoft made a statement about it: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2912435/if-windows-defender-flags-winring0-on-your-gaming-pc-pay-attention.html

            System76 would need to update how their driver works to remove the obsolete component but there hasn’t been any activity in the driver repository in a few years. As a result, I simply removed Windows. Games work great using the various compatibility layers (in fact, they actually run better) 🙂

            I’d still like to get a sound card over here to make it easier to manage sound. The weird remapping the MB uses isn’t supported under Linux so I’m left with a sub-optimal speaker configuration. Just haven’t gotten around to seeing if I can even access a PCI slot on my own without pulling stuff apart 😛

            #4985
            DeVaultSetter
            Keymaster

              No doubt Linux would be better, provided it won’t get barfed by clumsy keyboard-fu this way. 😛

              Ah, the fans are now managed entirely by Pop!_OS in the then Linux partition – perfect when there is no automatic bricking. Do get the picture now, my own particular folly is a penchant for skimming over poorly documented stuff:

              Replacing WinRing0 in Fan Control with PawnIO


              There was also Turn On or Off Microsoft Vulnerable Driver Blocklist in Windows Security, regrettably no link in that article to another one entitled Turn Off Windows for Good. Might have been a more entertaining read? 😛

              #4987

              Don’t worry! Most stuff can be handled by the GUI these days! There’s not much that requires manual editing on most distros now. If you do go with Linux, I’d recommend openSUSE Tumbleweed (it’s a stable rolling release with an amazing package manager) with KDE or even PopOS (I’m mostly too lazy to switch to openSUSE 😛 ). KDE is much better for beginners than GNOME or its derivatives (it also provides better configuration tools so there’s less messing around with text files and the terminal) but it is a bit slower due to having extra overhead. While a lot of folks are going the flatpack route for managing software, I still recommend doing things with the official package manager and repositories as it keeps everything neat and tidy and gives you more control over what’s going on (and extra transparency so you know what’s happening in the system). Linux also has amazing support for what Windows considers legacy hardware! 🙂

              Yep!

              Sadly, they didn’t give me that option when they kept blocking it from my system. They just simply purged it regardless. Needless to say, I got incredibly fed up with it 😛

              #4990
              DeVaultSetter
              Keymaster

                Definitely getting a welcoming Linux vibe, the main drawback as a Microsoft Solitaire Collection junkie, how so for this little red rooster to go cold turkey?
                Is there light at the end of the tunnel even after Microsoft Solitaire Turns Off Keyboard Lights, a new feature which could even be related to another thing.
                A High Performance power plan has always been set in Process Lasso while Solitaire runs, else tournament time is incorrectly evaluated. Again, after the last MS update, the power plan will not reset to the previous plan as it did before. Pretty sure it’s not an issue with Process Lasso, but might post over there later given a positive response from MS to above.

                #4995

                Good news! Both GNOME and KDE have a collection of solitaire games! You won’t get the community features but you can play them to your heart’s content!

                Weird. Could be something with the interaction of OpenRGB. I never got into RGB lighting much except for the color backlight that I left at default settings. Never had a problem in any application that I can recall.

                OpenRGB is apparently available for Linux but requires Qt, which KDE uses. Not an option for me, of course, as we generally know how I feel about Qt 🙂

                I’m not sure if it’s in the official package repos though but I can check. Most distros have a web-based tool to search packages in their repos. I’ll also look around for a GTK-based lighting tool

                #4999

                Looks like openSUSE has it in the repo: https://software.opensuse.org/package/OpenRGB

                Should be able to install it easily from the command-line (my preferred method) using zypper. 🙂

                Not in PopOS (at least, the version I’m on as the upgrade hasn’t landed yet) but Ubuntu has it: https://packages.ubuntu.com/questing/openrgb

                Arch has it as well: https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/openrgb/

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